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	<title>Comments on: Who says the age of walled gardens is over?</title>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://www.everydayux.com/2008/11/11/who-says-the-age-of-walled-gardens-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Nokia Vine was just released and guess what -- the home page for the service is ON Nokia&#039;s Nseries marketing portal: http://www.nseries.com/vine. Which means the primary navigation for the site isn&#039;t regarding the application&#039;s features or ways to navigate the service&#039;s data... it&#039;s about selling phones.

I think that says A LOT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Nokia Vine was just released and guess what &#8212; the home page for the service is ON Nokia&#8217;s Nseries marketing portal: <a href="http://www.nseries.com/vine" rel="nofollow">http://www.nseries.com/vine</a>. Which means the primary navigation for the site isn&#8217;t regarding the application&#8217;s features or ways to navigate the service&#8217;s data&#8230; it&#8217;s about selling phones.</p>
<p>I think that says A LOT.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://www.everydayux.com/2008/11/11/who-says-the-age-of-walled-gardens-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Nokia Vine was just released and guess what -- the home page for the service is ON Nokia&#039;s Nseries marketing portal: http://www.nseries.com/vine. Which means the primary navigation for the site isn&#039;t regarding the application&#039;s features or ways to navigate the service&#039;s data... it&#039;s about selling phones.

I think that says A LOT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Nokia Vine was just released and guess what &#8212; the home page for the service is ON Nokia&#8217;s Nseries marketing portal: <a href="http://www.nseries.com/vine" rel="nofollow">http://www.nseries.com/vine</a>. Which means the primary navigation for the site isn&#8217;t regarding the application&#8217;s features or ways to navigate the service&#8217;s data&#8230; it&#8217;s about selling phones.</p>
<p>I think that says A LOT.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://www.everydayux.com/2008/11/11/who-says-the-age-of-walled-gardens-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it&#039;s really starting to drive me batty, as a Nokia user, that they keep doing this with their apps (and we&#039;ll see it again with NokiaVine very soon).

They had a love affair with the AtomPub standard with Share Online and Lifeblog, and it&#039;s almost like they looked at the lack of adoption of the standard as took the totally wrong message out of it -- that people don&#039;t want integration with mobile apps. Of course, if they had supported metaWeblog I&#039;d be using these with my Drupal site right now.

@micah: Yes, I do believe someone there thinks that these walled gardens add some sort of brand caché to their handsets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s really starting to drive me batty, as a Nokia user, that they keep doing this with their apps (and we&#8217;ll see it again with NokiaVine very soon).</p>
<p>They had a love affair with the AtomPub standard with Share Online and Lifeblog, and it&#8217;s almost like they looked at the lack of adoption of the standard as took the totally wrong message out of it &#8212; that people don&#8217;t want integration with mobile apps. Of course, if they had supported metaWeblog I&#8217;d be using these with my Drupal site right now.</p>
<p>@micah: Yes, I do believe someone there thinks that these walled gardens add some sort of brand caché to their handsets.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://www.everydayux.com/2008/11/11/who-says-the-age-of-walled-gardens-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it&#039;s really starting to drive me batty, as a Nokia user, that they keep doing this with their apps (and we&#039;ll see it again with NokiaVine very soon).

They had a love affair with the AtomPub standard with Share Online and Lifeblog, and it&#039;s almost like they looked at the lack of adoption of the standard as took the totally wrong message out of it -- that people don&#039;t want integration with mobile apps. Of course, if they had supported metaWeblog I&#039;d be using these with my Drupal site right now.

@micah: Yes, I do believe someone there thinks that these walled gardens add some sort of brand caché to their handsets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s really starting to drive me batty, as a Nokia user, that they keep doing this with their apps (and we&#8217;ll see it again with NokiaVine very soon).</p>
<p>They had a love affair with the AtomPub standard with Share Online and Lifeblog, and it&#8217;s almost like they looked at the lack of adoption of the standard as took the totally wrong message out of it &#8212; that people don&#8217;t want integration with mobile apps. Of course, if they had supported metaWeblog I&#8217;d be using these with my Drupal site right now.</p>
<p>@micah: Yes, I do believe someone there thinks that these walled gardens add some sort of brand caché to their handsets.</p>
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		<title>By: micah</title>
		<link>http://www.everydayux.com/2008/11/11/who-says-the-age-of-walled-gardens-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-275</link>
		<dc:creator>micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s impossible to believe that the folks implementing these networks don&#039;t know, on some level, that the Walled Garden approach is doomed to failure.  Do you suppose somebody actually said, at a meeting in Finland at some point, &#039;This social network is going to be so revolutionary people will go out and buy brand new Nokia phones just to use it.&#039;  Do you suppose that person has been fired, or shot, yet?  How do real companies keep on making the same expensive mistakes again and again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s impossible to believe that the folks implementing these networks don&#8217;t know, on some level, that the Walled Garden approach is doomed to failure.  Do you suppose somebody actually said, at a meeting in Finland at some point, &#8216;This social network is going to be so revolutionary people will go out and buy brand new Nokia phones just to use it.&#8217;  Do you suppose that person has been fired, or shot, yet?  How do real companies keep on making the same expensive mistakes again and again?</p>
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		<title>By: micah</title>
		<link>http://www.everydayux.com/2008/11/11/who-says-the-age-of-walled-gardens-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator>micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s impossible to believe that the folks implementing these networks don&#039;t know, on some level, that the Walled Garden approach is doomed to failure.  Do you suppose somebody actually said, at a meeting in Finland at some point, &#039;This social network is going to be so revolutionary people will go out and buy brand new Nokia phones just to use it.&#039;  Do you suppose that person has been fired, or shot, yet?  How do real companies keep on making the same expensive mistakes again and again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s impossible to believe that the folks implementing these networks don&#8217;t know, on some level, that the Walled Garden approach is doomed to failure.  Do you suppose somebody actually said, at a meeting in Finland at some point, &#8216;This social network is going to be so revolutionary people will go out and buy brand new Nokia phones just to use it.&#8217;  Do you suppose that person has been fired, or shot, yet?  How do real companies keep on making the same expensive mistakes again and again?</p>
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